When I first came here, I met an architect at the University of Scranton and got a few restoration jobs. I used to drive around with little sculptures I made in the back of my van. I’d go around and sell them anywhere I thought might want them: garden centers, architects. I sold something to one architect, and another was looking for a stone carver at Elmira College. He had my carving on a wall and he said, “I know a guy!” They contacted me and we went to the college. I met with the President and his team, and I gave them some ideas and some drawings, and I sold them. I got this contract to do the carvings on the buildings. They kept using me and using me. Every couple years I’d get a nice contract from them. The last contract I had was with a residential hall called Meier Hall. Meyer was the president’s name. My son helped, too. That was from 1993-2011 or 2012. He’s retired now. He was a special kind of man, the president. That was really fun because after the 20 years prior experience that he had with me, he just showed me the spaces and said, “Do what you want.” The parameters were include the college logos: the iris, octagon and golden eagle. As long as those symbols were in the design, we were good to go. The gargoyles were 3D, and there were other 3D things in other buildings. But it was mostly 2D, high relief, carved 3” down. I like to carve really deep, especially on high buildings, because it really needs to stand out. That building had gargoyles, portraits.